{"id":1061790,"date":"2020-11-28T15:22:29","date_gmt":"2020-11-28T20:22:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bocskairadio.org\/?p=1061790"},"modified":"2020-11-28T15:22:29","modified_gmt":"2020-11-28T20:22:29","slug":"douglas-murray-history-justifies-hungarian-migration-politics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bocskairadio.org\/en\/douglas-murray-history-justifies-hungarian-migration-politics\/","title":{"rendered":"Douglas Murray: History justifies Hungarian migration politics"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"en-article-lead\"><strong>In his interview with Magyar Nemzet, Douglas Murray revealed that he finds the accusation of dictatorship against Hungary laughable. According to the political thinker, the left is becoming increasingly intolerant and is captive of extremist perspectives; conservatism can perhaps offer a viable alternative to the left\u2019s liberalization of hard drugs and decimation of police forces. The world-renowned author finds Hungary an extraordinarily cultured and inquiring society concerned with global current events.<\/strong><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/kulfold\/8519739-8519739\/\">Douglas Murray<\/a> is spending an entire month in Hungary as part of the \u201cPatriotic Talks\u201d online conference organized by the MCC-Danube Institute. Given his extended stay and familiarity with Hungary, Magyar Nemzet sat down with Murray to discuss the current political climate.<\/p>\n<div class=\"endless-shared-area\">\n<div id=\"et-boc\">\n<div class=\"et_pb_section et_pb_section_2 et_section_regular\">\n<div class=\"et_pb_row et_pb_row_2\">\n<div class=\"et_pb_column et_pb_column_4_4 et_pb_column_2    et_pb_css_mix_blend_mode_passthrough et-last-child\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>To start with an extreme, we asked his opinion on the continual accusations of dictatorship against Hungary\u2014even from sources like Joe Biden. According to Murray, these claims are laughable; it is entirely obvious that Hungary holds completely free and fair elections. However, these accusations are fueled by an even deeper divide between Western and Eastern Europe, according to the British author. The dialogue between these two camps is increasingly just a screaming match.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He finds the biggest problem to be that Western Europe is incapable of accepting the fact that the East does things differently.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When asked about the validity of other criticisms of Hungary, he referred to the CEU case which he believes should have been handled better; at least, according to Murray, the government\u2019s message should have been communicated more effectively. Although, its status as a university does not excuse it from any kind of debate regarding political conflict. On the other hand, as Murray asserted, the accusations regarding a lack of media pluralism in Hungary are entirely unfounded. He went on to describe the ridiculous expectations of the Fidesz government: essentially, the government should be funding the opposition\u2019s media according to some sources. In any country, the topic of media always sparks a heated debate. Murray provided the United Kingdom\u2019s media landscape as an example\u2014even there, ownership of various media causes serious clashes.<\/p>\n<p>Murray addressed the root cause of this persistent Western attitude: the left\u2019s perspective, which incorporates very peculiar historical angles, dominates in Western media. Their approach has become increasingly \u201cintolerant and impatient\u201d. Most often, freedom\u2014popularized by American liberals\u2014is placed at the forefront.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to Murray, though freedom is essential, if we only focus on this one value, it produces extreme results like legalizing hard drugs or downsizing police forces.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Moreover, this cult of freedom has had a large part in obscuring the meaning of equality\u2014more specifically, its concrete versus theoretical interpretation. By this, he means that the liberal approach demands complete equality, even at the level of the individual. Murray provides the example of a migrant family: realistically, it would take an immigrant family generations to get to the same level of affluence as the average citizen\u2014but liberals demand that immigrants immediately be guaranteed equal material conditions.<\/p>\n<p>The left has stuck their head in the sand with this blind faith in freedom and equality as the only path, said the British commentator. He compares today\u2019s situation to the political and social uncertainty in 1914. Murray believes that the left\u2019s confidence in this way of life stems from the lazy and trivial coverage from the media.<\/p>\n<p>Though Hungary is often targeted, Murray points out that other European leaders are attacked by the American liberal media as well: Emmanuel Macron and Inger St\u00f8jberg were criticized for their migration policy.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In answering the question of whether Hungary can expect sanctions from Biden\u2019s administration, Murray predicted that because of the simplistic and baseless association of Hungary with Trump, we can most likely expect some political and economic sanctions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Murray offered his opinions on populism and its meaning. He poses the question: \u201cWhat\u2019s the difference between a populist and a popular politician?\u201d In his view, this term has been cemented in the meaning assigned to it by the American left-wing\u2014but it shouldn\u2019t be this negative. In regard to Trump and Brexit for example, these elections were celebrations of democracy; people who barely ever participated in politics came out to vote\u2014yet they are labelled bigots and fascists by the media. As Murray puts it, these elections should have been reckonings for the left, yet there was no observable difference in their subsequent messages. The British political commentator suggests that the only way for the left to withdraw from this extremism is to introduce a constructive dialogue. He would be happiest if the normal, intelligent liberals could separate themselves from the insane. He sees that conservatives do a much better job of upholding this separation\u2014take for example the case of Jobbik in Hungary.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The left has a much harder time drawing the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior said Murray, citing a circuitous dinner conversation in the US as evidence.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The British author elaborated with the case of JK Rowling as an instance of liberal intolerance: her traditional feminist opinion on trans issues led to her excommunication from the left.<\/p>\n<p>As a conservative homosexual, Douglas Murray has always been a thorn in the side of liberals\u2019 because, according to their approach, identity should determine everything, especially political matters; minority groups like homosexuals are especially targeted. In contrast, Murray sees sexual orientation as just a fact of life\u2014not something to be ashamed of or particularly proud of either. Meanwhile, the left uses identity politics as a tool to deepen the divide.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_9020045\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter size-medium wp-image-9020045 ewebResponsiveImage ewebCol-xs-12 ewebCol-sm-12 ewebCol-md-12 ewebCol-lg-12\"><img class=\"size-medium wp-image-9020045 ewebResponsiveImage ewebCol-xs-12 ewebCol-sm-12 ewebCol-md-12 ewebCol-lg-12\" sizes=\"(max-width: 980px) calc( (100vw * 0.86) \/ 12 * 12), (max-width: 1360px) calc( (100vw * 0.86 * 0.68) \/ 12 * 12), 746px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/275w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 275w, https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/311w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 311w, https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/324w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 324w, https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/691w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 691w, https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/839w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 839w, https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/587w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 587w, https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/+otf\/746w\/6491260DMTI20180524021.jpg 746w\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9020045\" \/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-9020045\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Prime Minister Viktor Orb\u00e1n (l) and Douglas Murray (r) at the Hungarian Parliament in 2018<br \/>\nFot\u00f3: MTI \/ Minisztereln\u00f6ki Sajt\u00f3iroda \/ Bal\u00e1zs Szecs\u0151di<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Since 2015, more and more countries have expressed opinions on migration in alignment with Hungary\u2019s, for instance Macron. But the left won\u2019t change their position anytime soon says Murray. While liberalism has the help of the media and Hollywood, conservatism, as philosopher Roger Scruton put it, \u201cis an instinct\u201d. The British commentator elaborated: while we know that we can do certain things, we don\u2019t, and we stick to what we know works. Concerning economics, Murray cites the enormous and unbelievable loans that liberals accumulate; the right simply knows better and logically runs finances otherwise. In answer to the question, why conservatives always seem to be reacting to the left\u2019s initiatives, Murray offered another Scruton insight:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>conservatives are always fighting their next losing battle.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As a solution, he suggests that the right must formulate stronger visions of what makes up a good society along with alternatives to the left\u2019s image; Murray cites Hungary\u2019s family politics as a positive example in this category.<\/p>\n<p>The British author views most religious-Christian arguments as flawed because it is entirely inaccurate to only cite one element of religion when reasoning. He brings up the frequently argued point that Jesus was an immigrant\u2014sure, but Jesus eventually went back where he came from. This, according to Murray, is just one example of how political ideologies are falsely based on a single element of Christian teachings. In regard to the increasing Muslim population in Europe, Murray sees a variety of outcomes. While in Sweden for instance there are regular bombings, Denmark is comparatively quite peaceful. Hungary\u2019s fate will also differ given their stance on migration; after all, the British people never voted for mass migration into their country either.<\/p>\n<p>Murray believes that the preservation of Europe\u2019s Christian identity depends on the teaching of ethical values; those who aren\u2019t religious can live according to these rules as well. As he says,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cWe have to be able to explain the value in our lifestyle, but we haven\u2019t been able to do it yet.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There is unlimited strength in our faith he asserts. To love your enemy is an entirely unique approach of Christianity that we have come to see as a natural way of life. He mentions colonization as a continuously attacked part of history, yet it would have never occurred to Europeans if they weren\u2019t deeply interested in the rest of the world. This interest is present in the Hungarian nation as well, as they are an extraordinarily cultured and inquiring society, concerned with the current events of this world.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Douglas Murray sees a chance for renewal in the education of our youth; since 1968 we have been teaching bitterness where we should be teaching gratefulness.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Though we all have plenty of opportunities to be envious and spiteful, we should instead be thankful for what we have.<\/p>\n<div class=\"aframe\">\n<p>Douglas Murray was born in 1979 and is a British conservative author, journalist, and political thinker. His articles, which have appeared in the Spectator, Standpoint and the Wall Street Journal, garner controversy for their critical views on Islam and European migration policy. His most provocative book, The Strange Death of Europe, and his newest work, The Madness of Crowds, are available in Hungarian as well. He discusses the radical left\u2019s hypocritical identity politics.<\/p>\n<p>(<a href=\"https:\/\/magyarnemzet.hu\/in-english\/douglas-murray-history-justifies-hungarian-migration-politics-9019955\/\">Magyar Nemzet<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"en-article-lead\"><strong>In his interview with Magyar Nemzet, Douglas Murray revealed that he finds the accusation of dictatorship against Hungary laughable. According to the political thinker, the left is becoming increasingly intolerant and is captive of extremist perspectives; conservatism can perhaps offer a viable alternative to the left\u2019s liberalization of hard drugs and decimation of police forces. The world-renowned author finds Hungary an extraordinarily cultured and inquiring society concerned with global current events.<\/strong><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrap\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bocskairadio.org\/en\/douglas-murray-history-justifies-hungarian-migration-politics\/\" class=\"more-link\"><span aria-label=\"Continue reading Douglas Murray: History justifies Hungarian migration politics\">(more&hellip;)<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":33,"featured_media":1061791,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[166],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1061790","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-news"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Douglas Murray: History justifies Hungarian migration politics &#8211; Bocskai R\u00e1di\u00f3<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bocskairadio.org\/en\/douglas-murray-history-justifies-hungarian-migration-politics\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Douglas Murray: History justifies Hungarian migration politics &#8211; Bocskai R\u00e1di\u00f3\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"In his interview with Magyar Nemzet, Douglas Murray revealed that he finds the accusation of dictatorship against Hungary laughable. 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